Great post! I had no idea that generative AI was already capable of generating music at this level.
Two thoughts (and apologies if you've touched on either in older posts); no need to respond to either of them:
*) Will AI art become the media equivalent of highly processed food; cheap, hyper-palatable, widely available, but nutritionally void? It won't threaten us, challenge us, or cause us to experience rapture, but will provide an endless stream of bland pleasantness to those who cannot afford or are not interested in "artisanal art"?
*) On ML training as theft: If a human musician spent a few months to years studying phonk music and then wrote their own phonk compositions, we wouldn't treat this as theft unless they copied a specific riff. (And even there it can be fuzzy depending on the degree of resemblance.) There is no question that there is a qualitative difference (the algorithm can learn and produce content far faster than a human can) but it isn't clear to me there is any meaningful qualitative difference.
This isn't to say that we can't collectively decide to treat machines learning from examples of copyrighted art as wrong while considering humans doing it as allowable, but it isn't self-apparent to me that training ML models on copyrighted content should be considered theft unless the models are producing near-facsimiles of content in the training set.
Owen, is that your voice in the first song? It kind of sounds like it. I agree , that homegrown creativity has a benefit all by itself. As a teacher AI has me wondering about the value of being able to write a letter, or solve a math problem or create a short story. But like making music, these endeavors feed a part of our brain that makes us who we are. And I don't think that has changed much over the millennia. But, with the potential embedded in AI, maybe in the future, human behavior will look very,. very different. Lots of food for thought here.
Hi Owen! As usual I love reading your stuff. You “generate” yourself very well . :)
I guess I am “pre-dinosaur”. The fun for me in making music is tuning into my own soul. All my writing, good or bad, comes from the very wonderful/painful/joyful struggle of making manifest outside something from inside me. That being said I often use inspiring words from other great writers as prompts for my own work so in that way what’s the difference in having AI? I say, fill your boots if you are having fun. I sure am having a blast. 👋🎵❤️
Great post! I had no idea that generative AI was already capable of generating music at this level.
Two thoughts (and apologies if you've touched on either in older posts); no need to respond to either of them:
*) Will AI art become the media equivalent of highly processed food; cheap, hyper-palatable, widely available, but nutritionally void? It won't threaten us, challenge us, or cause us to experience rapture, but will provide an endless stream of bland pleasantness to those who cannot afford or are not interested in "artisanal art"?
*) On ML training as theft: If a human musician spent a few months to years studying phonk music and then wrote their own phonk compositions, we wouldn't treat this as theft unless they copied a specific riff. (And even there it can be fuzzy depending on the degree of resemblance.) There is no question that there is a qualitative difference (the algorithm can learn and produce content far faster than a human can) but it isn't clear to me there is any meaningful qualitative difference.
This isn't to say that we can't collectively decide to treat machines learning from examples of copyrighted art as wrong while considering humans doing it as allowable, but it isn't self-apparent to me that training ML models on copyrighted content should be considered theft unless the models are producing near-facsimiles of content in the training set.
Owen, is that your voice in the first song? It kind of sounds like it. I agree , that homegrown creativity has a benefit all by itself. As a teacher AI has me wondering about the value of being able to write a letter, or solve a math problem or create a short story. But like making music, these endeavors feed a part of our brain that makes us who we are. And I don't think that has changed much over the millennia. But, with the potential embedded in AI, maybe in the future, human behavior will look very,. very different. Lots of food for thought here.
Hi Owen! As usual I love reading your stuff. You “generate” yourself very well . :)
I guess I am “pre-dinosaur”. The fun for me in making music is tuning into my own soul. All my writing, good or bad, comes from the very wonderful/painful/joyful struggle of making manifest outside something from inside me. That being said I often use inspiring words from other great writers as prompts for my own work so in that way what’s the difference in having AI? I say, fill your boots if you are having fun. I sure am having a blast. 👋🎵❤️